tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13104742.post1419412298552881204..comments2023-09-03T02:34:28.488-06:00Comments on dB's Blog: Sync Production SoundBondelevhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04903592870589154181noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13104742.post-59174644886188853822007-05-19T11:56:00.000-06:002007-05-19T11:56:00.000-06:00>They mostly use production sync in the U.K. don't...>They mostly use production sync in the U.K. don't they? <BR/><BR/>Almost exclusively. (Of course, US movies were never dubbed when shipped to the UK, so they are used to hearing production sound as "right.") <BR/><BR/>Theatricallly trained actors tend to hate doing ADR, and in the UK, film actors generally tranisition from the world of theater. (Not always true in the US.)Bondelevhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04903592870589154181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13104742.post-11797019644817700772007-05-19T11:43:00.000-06:002007-05-19T11:43:00.000-06:00They mostly use production sync in the U.K. don't ...They mostly use production sync in the U.K. don't they? I always associate ambient acoustics with their productions.<BR/><BR/>Just a tangential aside, when the Lawrence Welk show went to TV he did the vocals with pre-records almost exclusively. And the interesting part, he pre-recorded the tap dancers and they had to foot sync the taps! For this reason, the performances were less spontaenious to keep the sync accurate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13104742.post-1680474867283647582007-05-17T10:27:00.000-06:002007-05-17T10:27:00.000-06:00While economics certainly contributed to it, the r...While economics certainly contributed to it, the real issue was the brain drain from Europe to the US. Much of our so called "dominance" after WWII was the mass exodus of the most precious of capital, human brains, from Europe just before and after the war.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13104742.post-72551064812749747852007-05-14T15:22:00.000-06:002007-05-14T15:22:00.000-06:00Yes, you are correct, I was grossly simplifying th...Yes, you are correct, I was grossly simplifying the history of the business in order to keep the post on topic and a reasonable length. The economics of WW II changed the business forever.Bondelevhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04903592870589154181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13104742.post-5165102962727042452007-05-14T15:17:00.000-06:002007-05-14T15:17:00.000-06:00A small aside:We were taught at USC (CTCS 200 and ...A small aside:<BR/><BR/>We were taught at USC (CTCS 200 and 201 to be exact) that before WWII film industries in Europe were just as strong as Hollywood - maybe not as strong, but certainly competitive, and Hollywood didn't export as much. It wasn't until WWII that production pretty much ceased in Europe, allowing the US to gain a foothold importing movies, from which they had 5 years of material to choose from. Europe has yet to recover from this dominance. Obviously that isn't the case in places like India and Hong Kong, and it doesn't affect your argument one bit, it's just an interesting piece of trivia.Marcelo Tesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11781617423905850418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13104742.post-39405900604967001982007-05-12T17:14:00.000-06:002007-05-12T17:14:00.000-06:00If you read foreign websites there is a lot of dis...If you read foreign websites there is a lot of discussion of post filming recording. It also has to do with the accent of the actor or actress in countries where more than one language is spoken. For example recently in India an up-and-coming actress' voice was dubbed (supposedly without her knowledge--thus the controversy) to acheive a more metropolitan accent. <BR/><BR/>I have also read descriptions of Indian experience with sync sound and it sound like they could use some experienced sound editors.<BR/><BR/>Additionally there have been interviews with actors that are so used to dubbing post production that they will save their vocal acting for later and when confronted with sync sound recording have to get used to doing "everything at the same time."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13104742.post-24541730211243796272007-05-11T17:00:00.000-06:002007-05-11T17:00:00.000-06:00Oh, I know. That was a response to the believable ...Oh, I know. That was a response to the believable performance bit.<BR/><BR/>:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13104742.post-76680514610748025462007-05-11T10:39:00.000-06:002007-05-11T10:39:00.000-06:00"Also, these countries have dedicated actors who h..."Also, these countries have dedicated actors who have been doing ADR all their life and are used to getting good performances in the booth"<BR/><BR/>You still have to pay them.Bondelevhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04903592870589154181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13104742.post-5339337209171816082007-05-11T00:23:00.000-06:002007-05-11T00:23:00.000-06:00"Also the idea that it is cheaper to do in post is..."Also the idea that it is cheaper to do in post is ridiculous."<BR/><BR/>All the reasons you give for this are surely true in the US, but not necessarily in other countries where the system is used to working this way. For them, it might be more expensive to hire a trained production recordist.In old Italian films, I'm not sure anyone was recording any sound at all on set, to be honest. (Basing this on the terrible sync & interviews). <BR/>Also, these countries have dedicated actors who have been doing ADR all their life and are used to getting good performances in the booth. <BR/><BR/>In the end I agree: it's just what you're used to, but definitely it's changing in some places. (By the way, I do prefer Production Sound).<BR/><BR/>Regarding 400 Blows, it's funny... Mr. D. Hall always maintains that kids are naturals at ADR. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com