Sound Assignment 1
DUE MONDAY
MEMORIAL DAY at 10 PM
Please post a proposal for your final project here, including a brief description of your proposed sound design.
Remember that the scene should be 3-5 minutes long and include DIA, MX, FX, BG, and Foley. If you choose an already existing scene, you should not attempt to reproduce the sound design of the scene exactly as in the film. The point of the assignment is to be creative and create an entirely new sound design. Consider it a blank slate.
If you are in doubt about your choice, you should list more than one possibility and I will try to guide you towards a good choice. If you choose one of your own films, you must e-mail me a small QT movie of the scene (or upload it to my iDisk) so that I can look at it before I approve it.
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40 comments:
I have two proposals for the sound design project, one animation and one live action. I am leaning very much toward the animation, as I think it has a lot of creative potential for imaging sound to work with the images. Please let me know what you think.
Proposal I:
Animation: Les Astronautes : Walerian Borowczyk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b6eSg1R5UM
I found a part of the animation on You Tube. I have a high resolution copy which I imported from DVD. I feel this animation has a lot of potential for creative sound interpretation. Although the subjects are pixelated, I think I can work on some dialogue, etc effectively, especially in the part which is located at 4 min 30 sec. The design would be more subjectively based and surreal.
Proposal II:
Close Encounters of the Third Kind (the part where the aliens take the little boy from the house, where appliances and toys turn on.) The design for this scene would be more centered around objective design and its goal would be for realistic representation of the objects in the scene.
Please let me know what works and if I need to do anything else to fulfill this assignment. Thanks!
Excellent choices. The animated film is a bit long, and as the action is choppy, sync is not much of a challenge, but the film certainly lends itself to subjective sound.
Close Encounters is fine too, I think that scene may also be long, but there's a lot of Foley.
Either choice is fine.
Ling writes:
I have a proposal for a final project that is an action part of animation- the incredibles. I think this sequence has a lot of possibilities to design. Now I can't show you this part until I buy this DVD tomorrow.
There will be dialogue, fighting, motor noise,imagined superpower,and music. Now I wanna ask you if I should find another source music to match this scene? But I think that only would the original music be perfect effect.
Could you give me suggestion? and if I can choose this movie?
You must tell me exactly which scene you will be doing. I do not need to see it - I've already seen the movie. You do not need to buy the DVD unless you want it for yourself. You can simply rent it Tuesday and have the SA make a QT movie for you for class use.
You must replace EVERYTHING in the scene including the music. You may not use music from the film. (What would be the challenge in that?)
If you want to use music, you must use music from another source. Since this is for a class project that will never be seen anywhere else, Fair Use allows us to use any music you want. You do not need to worry about copyright infringement.
Good luck,
Travis Walton's "memory" of being aboard the spacecraft in FIRE IN THE SKY.
Manny -
I haven't seen it, but that sounds fine. Is tit all subjective sound?
I would like to work on a scene from Shaolin Soccer, which is a modern-day Kung Fu film. I uploaded the QuickTime file of the scene to your iDisk. I accidentally uploaded it under the folder DemoReel. Sorry about that! The file name is ShaolinSoccer.mov
In this movie, the girl who works for a small bakery and makes bread for living is actually a martial arts hero. I think the part that she uses Kung Fu making flours has a lot of potential for surreal sound.
There are also a variety of things that would be interesting to do like the foot steps at the beginning, the street shot with a cab and a truck in the background and the shot with the guy kicks the refrigerator.
Music plays a very important role in the original sound design. I find there is a lot of emptiness if there is no music. This leaves me a lot of creative space for sound effects.
There are some dialogues in Chinese. I would like to cast voice actors and translate them into English.
Please let me know what you think.
Thanks
Qingyuan Wang
I have two proposal for the final project. please let me know which one is better.
proposal 1:
it is a animation:the princess of diamonds. you can see that in You Tube:http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=yTxrd5Whgug. The scene I want is 2:09~7:55. It might be more creative sound to do. I think I can try to use English for ADR. the sound of design would be more like fairy tale.I think the effect would be interesting.
proposal 2:
Rocky 1.the scene is in the beginning. Rocky go from outside to box training place. He find that his locker is occupied by others, and he go asking the trainer. (I can rent the DVD to show you )I think the changes of ambience environment is interesting. the sound could be not only realistic, but also internal emotional.
I am interected in both proposals.
please let me know which one works better for you. thank you!
Chiachi -
The animation scene is too long, and has much, much too much dialogue to be feasible for this class. Anything more than a few lines will be very hard to do with the time constraints we have in the summer. However, most of the dialogue is off-camera. If you feel that you can rewrite the dialogue to be much more minimal, you could try that.
The scene from ROCKY is an interesting choice, but not very demanding. It's mostly Foley and a few lines of dialogue.
Let me know which one you choose.
Qingyuan -
I know the movie. How long is the scene? How much action is there? If the scene has more than a couple of minutes of action, you probably will not get it done in the short summer semester.
Otherwise, good choice.
I have three clips in mind I would like to do.
1. Pan's Labyrinth: Children Eater
http://youtube.com/watch?v=n9YD2PFF31E
It is a surrealistic, fairy-tale setting where fairies and monsters sound we never heard off.
I think this could be the clip where I can manipulate their sounds, the wings flapping, and strange ambience.
2. Fight club: the fight scene
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ec2SC0ZW6V4&feature=related
The scene is very busy with vairous of ambience, group loop sounds, and pyschological sound.
There is a part where time is slowed down and I think the perception of time and senses are very different from reality. It could be a good clip to explore.
3. Fight club: self-torture front of the boss in the office scene
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IVtk2lHuM5w&feature=related
The abnormal, almost hilarious scene could be nice for some funky music as score, and nice reacting sounds from both side.
Thomas -
Any of those three are fine choices for the purposes of this class; PAN is one of my favorite movies. I hated FIGHT CLUB, but there is a lot of sound potential in the clips you chose.
Hello David,
My project is a 3-4 second slice of MIchael Robinson's Animation Sci-Fi Thesis animatic, "THE CANYON", thus, the level of visuals will be much lower in resolution and authenticity then his final thesis which features Mo-Cap Technology. I want to get a head start, and plenty of opportunity to consult with you about designing the sound for an entire futuristic universe. The full animatic is about 6 minutes, but the climax is pretty involved so I'm only going to choose the last 3-4 minutes.
I have to figure out how to burn a time code into the existing QT movie, so that will be my task tonight and tomorrow.
Steven -
I need to see the film.
To make a QT movie with TC, you can use either FCP or Avid; FCP tends to be faster.
You can also give it to the SA and she will do it for you.
Hi David,
The scene from Shaolin Soccer is about 2.40 minutes.
I uploaded the QuickTime file of the part that I want to do on your iDisk in case you need to see it. The file name is ShaolinSoccer.mov
Qingyuan
Qing -
That scene is great!
I got another few ideas.
1.the robot actress and actor on the train scene from 2046. There are some ADR and voice-over which I can translate to English.The scene is more sci-fi.The sound might be interesting to work on.
I am not sure if the vo is too much? maybe I can try to rewrite some to make it minimal.(I have DVD to show you)
2. Jan Svankmajer's Film:Alice. The scene is from the rabbit showing up to Alice jumping to the drawer.
It would be interesting to work on surreal style sound.I can try to work on something special.
Please let me know your opinion.
Chiachi -
I haven't seen either of these. They both sound interesting, but I have to see them to approve them.
I would like to propose a scene from "The Diving Bell & the Butterfly" as my final project. (When Jean-Do discovers he still can use his imagination to escape his limited abilities and begins to write his book)
It provides opportunities for:
-dialogue (VO and a little ADR from French into English)
-realistic, hyper-real, and surreal sound design
-source and non source music (if I want to eventually add it)
I think the scene lends itself to some great creative opportunities to communicate what the character is going through emotionally and physically and what this has done to his senses (heightened some while hindering others). The scene is a little over 6 minutes, so I'd like to do the first 5.
Mallory -
Excellent choice!
1.you can see some shot in You tube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSxBsYGa3SU&feature=related
(about 2:55~6:00)
2.You can see this one on You Tube: http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=C5wHMgTPF-s
I have Both of two dvd to show you.
Hi David, I have two proposals also.
1: I was thinking of doing the scene in Hook when the children are kidnapped by Hook. I think the scene is a challenge because it depends so much on music and I would like to attempt to use little if any while keeping the tension of the scene.
2: Scholastics animated interpretation of Where the Wild Things Are. The short is pretty much all music and I feel could really use the dialog and sound effects. I found it on youtube if you've never seen it.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fWIdkYk9fQM
It's a bit long but I can cut out some parts. It also has an experimental feel to it that I feel can open up to creative interpretations of the story. Thanks.
I want to do a war type scene for my final project. I am proposing a scene from black hawk down where the sodiers are about the leave the base. There is a lot of helicopter stuff going on as well as some other action. Running, humvees, etc.
Another option is when they come back to base and are preparing to go back in. There are a lot of injured soldiers crying and vehicles moving, foley, etc.
Hey David,
I would really like to do a scene from "28 Days Later" It's the scene starting Chapter 11, when the foursome get caught with a flat tire in the underground and the infected are coming. It is four minutes long.
I admit there's alot going on in the scene, but that's why I like it. It will challenge and keep me interested.
I hope you approve.
see you Thursday.
-Sue Palmer
I'd like to work on The Abyss, the scene in which Ed Harris swims back to the rig while dragging his drowned wife. The scene opens with the two of them arguing in a tiny, damaged sub as it fills with water and ends with Ed trying to resuscitate her. I'd like to redesign the sound to have more of an oppressive, claustrophobic feel, primarily by adding more (and more ominous) water noises, both background and Foley. This would probably involve a bit of work with a hydrophone.
Hi, David
I have found two parts of scenes in THE INCREDIBLES,
one is 1 min 12 sec:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
69scqsWWEP0&feature=related
and the other is 2 min 55sec: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw
y_-Huccr8&feature=related
May I use them? Thanks
Chiachi -
ALICE looks much more interesting!
Cesar -
WHERE THE WILD THINGS ARE is a much better choice!
Rene -
Good choice; also leaves plenty of room for subjective sound.
Sue -
I don't remember how much dialogue there is there. As long as there's not too much, it sounds good to me.
Ian -
That's a great scene, but hydrophones are expensive to rent. So much so that most people fake underwater sounds by recording them normally and either EQing them to sound muddy, or occasionally adding reverb (even though it makes no acoustic sense).
You can't really do water in the Foley room either; it's too messy.
The scene would be quite a challenge.
Ling -
I think you are underestimating how much work it is to do an action scene, especially one with dialogue. The second scene is much too much work for this class. The first scene might be doable, but it is a lot of work.
I'm looking at two options:
1) The jewel theft scene from "Irma Vep" (dir. Olivier Assayas, 1996). 00:50:11-00:57:28
Hong Kong actress Maggie Cheung is in Paris to play the role of the classic masked thief Irma Vep in a French film. One rainy night, she acts out her character in real life: she puts on the black costume, and steals a jeweled necklace from a hotel guest.
This scene has good opportunities for backgrounds (the inside of hotel rooms, creeping along hotel hallways and stairways, the rainy night on the rooftop), music (for suspense and emotion), and dialogue (the woman she steals from is talking on the phone). There is good opportunity for realistic sound design, as well as surreal and hyper-real elements by the tense nature of the scene and the mysterious nature of the story and character.
2) The wandering city scene from "Ghost in the Shell" (dir. Mamoru Oshii, 1995). 00:30:44-00:36:18
This scene is very ethereal and gives a lot of space for playing with ambiences of the city. The travel through the city on a boat allows the viewer to experience the sights and sounds of a city through its backgrounds, machinery, chatter, birdcall, wind, waves, etc. It is a very lonely beautiful scene and much can be done with realistic, surreal, and hyper-real sound work. In order to include some dialogue, I've added on the end of the previous scene, which includes some philosophical conversation between Motoko and her colleague. This conversation directly leads into Motoko's soul-searching wanderings in the city.
-Kat Lo
Kat -
I have not seen Irma Vep but it sounds good. The Ghost in the Shell scene is a fine choice.
Let me know which one you choose.
Thanks for your feedback. Although "Ghost in the Shell" seems a more fun, experimental choice, I'm going to try "Irma Vep" because I think it'll be a tougher challenge for me, one that requires more precision to pull off.
Hi, David
I know these two parts are too difficult to finish in this class, but I like this movie, and I am difficult to find other movie now. Do you mind if I change them into the beginning sequence of this movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qtt-UpOInXE&feature=related
I'd like use from 2:10 to 5:10.
If you think that is better than before, Thanks for your instruction, and sorry to tell you so lately.
Ling -
Up to about 4 minutes is good.
David,
My QT has been uploaded to the sound server so I don't know if you've seen it?
Would you rather look at it on disk during office hours this week?
Steven -
I don't have access to the server outside of class.
I'll see it Monday.
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